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help needed!! with point of sale-epos

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:01 pm
by faruqkhan
i,ve already got following hardware is it compatible with epos software
TVS VS-10C 10inch b&w monitor
ICL Model 9535 type no 54258/001 cash drawer
Pennine POS ALP No A1074-P322-0695, sales display pole
Pennine pcpos keyboard
Welch Allyn scanteam 3400ccd handheld scanner

i am after news control
home delivery and customer accounts
e top ups

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:52 pm
by lambda
what do you need help with?

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:38 pm
by faruqkhan
Point of sale or point of service, software is catching up in pakistan ,
about 3 months back utility stores asked for a quotation on epos in all its stores-- there was a business opportunity for someone
other big international players like makro are trying to get in -they use pos software
Even if we r not talking about big players like ary cash n carry , pizza hut , macdonalds , have a look around and you,ll see many mom and pop grocery stores like aghas in karachi that r using the technology and most of them just go for a windows solution
For me it means there is a business opportunity for someone to make money , I know my limitations and programming is not my strong point
I can help with the hardware side if someone wants to try and test , as mentioned above i do have the above hradware , and i will get an open source source pos software in the bargain
I have tried a few pos systems but the one i like is dhpos but its not open source so i cant modify it to my needs

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:41 pm
by faruqkhan
I have accumalated quite a few links etc that i,d like to share,there used to be a site by i think but definately was linuxpos ,not there any more but some really useful links articles etc u could try archives.

the things i have left by mailing
I,ve been looking at open source epos solutions and came across
following articles,quite intersting read

regarding epos solutions i tried to locate pizza pos but could,nt find
the link, the open source solutions there is a Free POS Software /
Free Cash Register Program(proffittcenter) by dale harris what do u
think about that and can it be ported to linux also there is a Barcode
Writer in Pure Postscript by terry burton
? do u think about turbocash ,gshop,gnupos and tuxshop
I,m new to this field and do need some expert advice so sorry for all the hassle

all the links i,ve got for open source solutions (Barcode Writer in Pure
Postscript) (Free POS Software /
Free Cash Register Program.) ( Quasar Accounting 1.4.3 Available
in Open Source)
also (Comprehensive Listing
of All Known Point of Sale Solutions)

? do u think about bluecat-linux-pos
is there a newsgroup about epos on linux or a forum ,can we start a
thread on liux pakistan???

some open source epos links (Comprehensive Listing
of All Known Point of Sale Solutions) (Barcode Writer in Pure
Postscript) (Free POS Software /
Free Cash Register Program.) ( Quasar Accounting 1.4.3 Available
in Open Source)

sometimes u need to look at what the competitors got and get ideas that u might be able to implement in ur own epos or get someone to do it for u
windoz epos links (Multi
Pos for Restaurant 3.01) (Retail Man POS 1.50.821) (Retail Plus Lite POS
Software 1.0) (ezPower POS (Point
of Sale) 8.0) (Retail Plus POS Software 2.0) (4POS Retail 62.00) (MainRetail 2.0) (PowerTerm InterConnect 6.6.2) (Volutive 1.1.0) (Winrental 398.00) (Retail Boss POS
(Point of Sale) 9.9c)


Here is a list of most of the proprietary software packages I checked
out. I will not rank them because it depends on price. A good value
one was but it was still well over AU$40,000
for our business. But some of these were AU$100 - 200,000 for an SME
like us.

Arel Retail
Counter Intelligence
Creative Computing
Enigma Solutions
Future Business Solutions
JDA Software
Micro Solutions
Pronto Software
System 77
Technology One
Thomson Data Corp

Open source you would know:

Plus a few more but they were not seriously considered.

If you want more, just ask.

about ideas for epos
One solution is Gazelle, from GNU Solutions in the UK.

Gazelle was one of the first POS Linux platforms out there and has an
installed user base with customers such as Budgens and Krispy Kreme.
Its developed and sold by GNU Solutions and its partner PCMS.

PCMS btw. has standardised on Gazelle for its Beanstore product -
which is interesting since PCMS have also done work with IBM on IRES
in the past.

Gazelle differs from IRES in a number of ways.

First its a dual layer OS. It consists of a small Linux distro about
16MB in size that provides device driver, setup, integrety checking,
install, SSH, web and autoconfiguration components.

It always runs and can do so from a disk bootstrap, CDROM or network.
Thus if your disk crashes, or the system gets corrupt, it will always
run and allow you to log into the system and find out what went wrong
and implement a manual or automatic fix.

Since it runs in a ramdisk, its also imune from hacking and deliberate
modifications, since the next time you reboot, the changes made

This service layer then starts your application in a run time
environment, that is a complete POS Linux distribution that can
provide all the services required for Java, X and database.

Key libraries are checksummed at build time and if these libraries are
modified, then the system will refuse to run - allowing a greater
level of trojan and card collection hacking protection.

Gazelle, unlike IRES is designed from the ground up to be a POS
opperating system and thus its smaller and more reliable. IRES is
based on a Server product and has a number of wrappers applied to it
during build that tweak the OS to work in a POS environment. Since
IRES is based on SUSE Linux, IBM may not have complete control of the
distribution, Gazelle on the other hand is a complete source neutral
product and thus we have complete control over how its build, what
goes into it and how it works. This allows us a greater level of
flexibility and control that can be reflected in delivering what the
customer needs, not what the vendor thinks is required.

Also, because we are not a Vendor solution, we can also run on many
different POS platforms including Wincor, PCPOS, HP and fujitsu as
well as IBM hardware - thus as a customer, you are not tied into a
vendors hardware platform, allowing you to take advantages of a more
competetive pricing landscape.

If you want more information on Gazelle, please feel free to drop us a
line, or visit the web site at

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:41 pm
by faruqkhan
epos ideas
I want to make a point-of-sale Portal site that will enable any store
to securly give in stock, make sales, inventory and even orders and
transfers to other stores of his allowed group. There is a very large
request around this here in uk, but I guess also worldwide
because I didn't find it anywhere!
This website will need a very, very large database or be able to start
another databases for each new loged-in (and paid) customer. There is
a lot to earn even asking very low prices!

An Example:
- Surfing the web I find this interesting online point-of-sale site.
I just need to log in and I can start selling my products, for 1 free

After that I can pay a small amount that represents the sales I make
(maybe 0.1% or just 1 penny for each product sold) or with a
bank-deposit done a few days before with a special referance (there
are a lot of countries that don't have that much creditcards in use)

- Then I go to "sales" I type in the product name or barcode(could use
a keyboard switched barcode-reader) Because it ain't in stock, the
program asks for the name, price and amount in stock and updates the
The received money has been entered, ticket printed on standard
printer and I've made my first sale with it!!!

- Then some day I read in the hole stock entering the price and
product names for each not already existing read barcode. And now I
have all the products in my online database!!! I can even upload a
ASCII or Excel file lay out just the way the website askes it.

- Inventory with placing a 20 meters cable between the barcode-reader
and keyboard-switch. Using a barcode-card for entering the amount of 1
product before the product is being scanned. The PC gives sounds or
even speaks for what is happening. So there is only 1 input field that
automaticly sees if it is an instruction, barcode or amount. So I've
got now my entier stock online!!!

- I can go to logs and have sales charts and statistics.

- I can download all my data(stock,sales,transfers,...) in a textfile
or excel sheet.

-I can add other stores that can have a look in my stock and make/ask
transfers and orders.

-I can add logins with passes for employees.

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:42 pm
by faruqkhan
Over the past few years, Retail Systems Reseller and other industry
magazines have tended to support proprietary solutions, whether they
were constructed in-house or built on top of Microsoft operating
systems. The best explanation for their support is that older
solutions tended to be in-house proprietary or built on top of a small
real-time kernel. This situation was necessary, because a lot of
functionality had to be crammed into a slow CPU with limited RAM.

As inexpensive CPUs became faster and RAM became larger, purchasing
more software became cost-effective, because there now was space and
speed to run less optimal solutions. In return, device drivers no
longer had to be written for many common peripherals. The downside, of
course, is the OS now had to be treated as a black box; previously, it
was code that could be viewed and modified as needed.

Some vendors, IBM being one example, recognized the advantage of
building point-of-sale systems based on Linux. Device drivers were
included with these systems, and the source code was accessible.
Unfortunately, industry trade magazines didn't seem get it.

Now, however, things are starting to change. The September Products to
Watch section of Retail Systems Reseller contains two examples. First,
the LC6000 Industrial Computer, by Logic Controls, is described as
follows, "The LC6000 is based on an Intel-compatible x86 processor, so
it can run many Windows and Linux-based applications." Assuming this
statement isn't marketing hype, this is positive because this system
is completely solid-state, including the flash disk. In other words,
Logic isn't saying you only can boot your Linux CD here.

Although less dramatic, the second example is the Flex POS by Touch
Dynamic. The description reads, "The unit ships with an internal
floppy and an optional 3.5" hard drive with any operating system." The
choice of the word any is a little strange, but it certainly sounds
like Touch Dynamic has noticed choices are available.
Getting into This Market

Seeing this new Microsoft-free approach in a magazine like Retail
Systems Reseller made me think about business opportunities for Linux
in this market. Although writing a complete POS system is possible,
doing so is a huge project. Besides that, some of these systems
already exist. So, what other possibilities are there? Scanning the
magazine further provided some inspiration.

The first idea comes from an ad for Ithaca printers. No mention of
Linux is made, but the ad is for wireless receipt printers--they speak
802.11b. Some POS systems likely exist (in a restaurant, for example)
with an assortment of wired printers that don't really address the
needs of the business but with hardware that cannot support more
printers or wireless printers. How about a Linux box with an 802.11b
card that plugs into the POS printer port and does some intelligent
printer traffic routing? You may not get rich off this system, but you
probably could get your and Linux's foot in the door for a future

I continue scanning the magazine's pages, and I see an article titled
"The Government Plays Market-Maker". First, the author discusses how
retailers are dragging their feet on full-scale POS replacement
because of the soft market, but then explains that some add-ons are
being required because of government legislation. The most common
piece of legislation is that many states require stores to provide a
customer-accessible device that scans barcodes and displays product
prices. This stipulation is made so stores can avoid individual
product price labels. Providing this device, of course, requires a
system that can access the price database of the current POS system.
It seems Linux is game for that task. So, why not a Linux-based unit
that allows customers to look up prices? While you're at it, be
creative and have it display ads when not showing prices or even offer
a coupon system.

Finally, I read an article titled "Post-Modern Scanning Draws VARs"
that essentially is about the need for new scanning devices to handle
2-D barcodes. Shipping companies, such as UPS, are using them, and
they also are appearing on drivers' licenses. These barcodes require
newer software, as well as more CPU power, to be decoded than do
traditional barcodes.

So, if you feel you have written enough computer games and want to see
if you can make some money with Linux, I hope I have provided you with
some ideas for projects. In each case, what you do now could be the
ticket for getting Linux in the door in preparation for the next major
POS upgrade.

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:43 pm
by faruqkhan
BEL SBX 1-4 Final
belsbx1-4final.iso = BEL Server-Basic 1-4 Xfce Final

BEL SBX is a Small Business server based on PCLInuxOS 2007, but using a modified Xfce interface to make a lighter, faster GUI experience for those who come from another server background ( like maybe Windows Server) or perhaps are visually oriented people, finding their way around the OS/system better when they can "see" things. It takes all kinds of users and we aim to please as many of them as possible.

BEL SBX can be run easily with this light, fast and resource easy GUI or it can be run just as easily without any GUI at all, saving on the resources the x window systems uses natively. Either way, SBX users will have a small business server that can perform with the best of them.

Keldix Linux
Keldix is a Linux distribution primarily for the Small business Office and Home Office (SOHO) market. Keldix is a live-dvd built on PCLinuxOS.

Keldix has the following features:

* Danish translations
* Skype
* shorewall firewall automatically activated
* automatic setting of syncronized time
* login by password or ssh passphrase
* TV is working

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:44 pm
by faruqkhan

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:45 pm
by faruqkhan

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:24 pm
by osama1
Are u still working or thinking about this?

I recently did R&D on another open source ERP much useful and powerfull then Openbravo. I can help in running POS with that ERP suit.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:38 am
by faruqkhan
definately interested , where r u based?

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:48 am
by osama1
I am in Lahore

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:53 pm
by faruqkhan