What about Java5?

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Postby saquib_javed » Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:46 am

Salam farhantoqeer,

I think I'll be using Java 8)

ThanX
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Postby mrkkhattak » Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:07 pm

Assalamualaikum,

That said, the choice of a tool is really dependent on the application scenario. Creating a guestbook page for your personal website? Use PHP. Creating the next amazon.com? Use Java/.NET.


I know you wrote this sentence only to illustrate the difference b/w PHP & Java/.Net. But I see the difference is very large :-) Do you really think that difference b/w PHP & Java/.Net is that much huge ( guest book | amazon ) ?I also have Yahoo! Finance in mind :P

As you also mentioned phpGTK, I won't recommend it for using on a real desktop application, but I would certainly recommend PHP to use for any application that you are going to write for the web whether it is a large one or a small one.

Farhan, If it were a web application I will use PHP. For desktop, no idea :-)

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Postby hamdan » Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:15 pm

Yar! Guys Java Development is a complete community process. So associating it with sun will not be that much of a good idea : )
Check out http://www.jcp.org/

Secondly features of Java are not that much subject to market-pressure, I mean in/out with in the libraries is highly debated before they are finalized. Therefore it is much (much) more mature then its counter part, and of course globally market adoption is a plus point. So JAVA is here-to-say Buddies.
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Postby lambda » Wed Oct 27, 2004 12:47 pm

farhantoqeer wrote:What programming language you use if you are going to write a desktop application (Inventory, Accounts, HR/Payroll etc etc) with mixed clients using Linux, Windows?


actionscript.
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Postby hamdan » Fri Oct 29, 2004 2:55 pm

Man! There is a BIG difference b/w ‘programming languages’, ‘scripting languages’ and ‘markup languages’ so your actionscript (scripting language very much similar to JavaScript) is not under-consideration ;) here
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Postby n3m3sis » Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:47 am

so do we all agree that Java5 is a milestone for java development, it will provide java the neccessary edge over competing languages (C#)?

Java is a open community project (JCP) whereas c# is an elite developer community (MSDN) project which takes strong direction form Microsoft.

As Linux proves, open community is more sucessful in the long term
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Postby fawad » Sun Oct 31, 2004 9:28 pm

bzzt, wrong.
n3m3sis, If anything, java5 brings it closer to C#. You'll want to compare the implementation of Java and C# generics (interview with Anders Hejlsberg here).

Despite the JSR process, Java is not an open standard whereas the CLI and c# are (ISO (C#, CLI), ECMA (C#, CLI) ). How many standards bodies has Java (the language and the runtime) been submitted to? (Hint, the number is very close to 0). Microsoft on the other hand, submitted the specification of the upcoming CLI and C# language to ECMA before their first beta version was published.
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Postby lambda » Mon Nov 01, 2004 2:40 pm

hamdan wrote:Man! There is a BIG difference b/w ‘programming languages’, ‘scripting languages’ and ‘markup languages’ so your actionscript (scripting language very much similar to JavaScript) is not under-consideration ;) here


more people have flash installed than java, or .net.
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Postby fawad » Mon Nov 01, 2004 10:15 pm

To second lambda's message, Laszlo was opensourced recently which is an excellent platform for delivering rich apps over flash.
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The Testing release of java

Postby swatiantigers » Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:07 pm

Hi
My Name Is AnEeS Bhai( Programming Name ). Im A java developer.
in the first article on java 5 i have readed a line java 5 open source so here is the link to java5 sourceSource
J2se 5 updat1 is also available.

j2se6 snapshot release is also available i will post a link about it soon.............
Enjoy :) :!:
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J2se6.0 SnapShot Release 5

Postby swatiantigers » Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:17 pm

Mustung the code name for java J2se6.0 is released and is available for download from java.net.

Story Link: http://www.java.net/download/jdk6/binaries/

Sun Microsystems has released the fifth snapshot release of J2SE 6.0. A changelog of bugs and added features is available from the project. It is available for downloads on Windows, Solaris & Linux.

To read More About Mustung click here
J2se6.0

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Java is ocean

Postby swatiantigers » Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:36 pm

Hi
Once again im here;
Java is completely different from C#. java is an ocean if u dived once into it. you can came out of it again :) Lolz
java is the software that powers the Mars Rover(from java.com)
java has alot of tools and api's. it covers from mobile phones to mainframe computers and much more... Sun estimates the total Java Economy to be more than $100 billion in sales annually driving an additional $110 billion in related IT spending.The Java economy includes 750 million Java Cards, 650 million PCs shipped with Java, 579 million Java Powered phones, and 100 telecommunications carriers who deploy Java technology.To read More Visit Here
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Documentation for Mustung

Postby swatiantigers » Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:41 pm

Assalam-o- Alaikum And
I m Once Again Here

The Documentation Of Mustung is available here click on the link and the download will start Lolz :)
Docs

If you Wants to see the full list of downloads Visit here
Mustung Downloads
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What about Python?

Postby affan » Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:22 am

Python (or if you prefer Jython) rules.... it gives you the best of both worlds.... The richness of Java programming libraries plus rapid development/building blocks practices associated with M$ tools.
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Jython

Postby swatiantigers » Tue Apr 12, 2005 2:15 am

hi
yep python especially jython is the best, combining the power of java and python. it enhances and simplifies java code.
Java:

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for i in range(0,100):
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