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Postby LinuxFreaK » Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:58 pm

Dear jess,
Salam,

Most of .gov.pk sites hosted and DDOS protection and Data Center uses Reverse Proxy !!

http://www.ptv.com.pk is hosted by

We also provide Basic to Advanced Level DDOS protection !!

FYI, http://www.blockdos.net

Bes Regards.
Farrukh Ahmed

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Postby jess » Sat Nov 19, 2005 7:35 am

Thanks guys, lot of useful and new information.

From what I can understand, it seems that there really is no internet in Pakistan. The ISP's only have pipes to the PTCL gateway in Karachi. The ISP's have no routing intelligence, all traffic is forwarded to PTCL Karachi gateway. If the COMSATS ISP in Islamabad gets a request for a site hosted by Brain in Lahore, the COMSATS blindly forwards all traffic to PTCL Karachi gateway, whose routers have the routing knowledge, the routers then put the request in the pipe connecting to Brain in Lahore. Lahore and Islamabad do not and cannot talk to each other. So all ISP's are really sub-ISP's (really aggregators) of one main ISP.

This is not a happy state of affairs. Internet means a collection of "connected intranets." What is needed is to form an intranet within the country. Mirrors of code repositories (sourceforge etc) can be setup to encourage the development of a local backbone. It is easy to setup Jabber servers within the country to meet the needs of local chatting. Even all chats today have to trave the undersea fibre out of the country and then back?

As pointed out by a Ashar above that when the undersea fibre broke, even the PTCL Karachi router went down and was unable to service requests within the country. So I am not sure even this gateway is worth much in terms of ability to operate autonomously. Who is responsible of contingency planning?

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Postby ashariqbal » Sat Nov 19, 2005 11:55 am

the reason hosting in the usa is popular is because pakistan is very expensive

pakistan is expensive because isp's do not create their own bandwidth, but only buy from PTCL/Dancom/Wol and resell. isp's can create bandwidth by connecting to each other (peering), but this requires trust (between isps) and tech skills.

there will not a lot of hosting in pakistan unless there is peering
there will not be much need for peering unless there is hosting in pakistan

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